Tuesday, October 18, 2005

Grades and Behavior

What happens when students don't receive grades? Grades are a near universal feature of education, but plenty of more progressive educators don't like them (Alfie Kohn's "Punished by Rewards" comes to mind). Grades create negative competition, they say, are always a bit arbitrary, and make learning about external rewards, not inherent value.

They have a point that grades affect behavior. But some data out of a few business schools shows that the behavioral costs of not having grades are pretty big too.

According to Sept. 12's Business Week, student grades at the University of Chicago's biz school, Wharton (UPenn), Stanford and Harvard are not dislosed to recruiters. Students can't make them available voluntarily, either. Since people generally go to business school in order to get better managerial jobs coming out, this in essence means that grades have no impact on student lives.

Nondisclosure policies were adopted to encourage teamwork and allow students to take harder classes without fear of the results.

But what is the result? Vice-Dean Anjani Jain of Wharton writes in a recent Wharton Journal article that the time students spend on academics has fallen 22% in the four years since the non-disclosure policy was adopted at his school. Professors have had to resort to near-primary school tactics to keep students engaged (Harvard Business School takes attendance).

It turns out that yes, grades are external rewards, but most people work for external rewards. Particularly motivated students may not need grades -- gifted students' independent studies come to mind -- but in general grades create a culture of accountability. And most students need that.

4 comments:

jo_jo said...

I think it's very valuable to discuss grades, since they are given so much weight in so many areas. Parental expectations is one area where a grade can cause a lot of problems for a gifted kid. But is the answer to remove grades completely?

Personally, I don't think so. Grades are feedback, sometimes the only personal feedback a student gets. Once I had a job where they never gave feedback - good job, bad job, indifferent job - I had no idea. It was incredibly frustrating because I wanted to move up in the organization but had no idea how to be successful. In fact, it became a game to see how far I had to go to actually illict a response from management.

I remember as a gifted kid finding some comfort in the grade system. At least I knew what was expected and what would be rewarded. At that point, it was up to me to decide whether to play the game or not.

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Joanna
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Laura Vanderkam said...

Interesting replies. I've been thinking about it more, and I'd put it like this. Grades are not inherently good or bad. Most people, however, are not motivated enough to work in the absence of formal feedback or rewards. Maybe this is a result of years of formal schooling conditioning them, but I don't think so -- plenty of homeschooling parents find their kids love to learn, but they express a bit more enthusiasm if they're rewarded. And most people enjoy getting bonuses and positive feedback at work, and a lot of people need this to be motivated! There is an exception of course. In fact, I'd say it's a dividing line in types of people. There's most of us. Then there are those who are inherently self-motivated or have cultivated it. I recently interviewed a young man who started his own mint making company (which is doing amazingly well, double-digit growth monthly). He said "If you ever took a pass-fail course in college, and still worked really hard, you can run your own business." This may explain why most MBAs don't start their own businesses (see the original post) but it's not the kind of motivation most group learning or working situations can rely on.

Anonymous said...

Posting in Sept. 2011:

"Most people, however, are not motivated enough to work in the absence of formal feedback or rewards."

Personality traits.

I'm one of those who, for part of my life, was actually anti-motivated by praise and rewards. Personal time was important enough that praise and rewards were seen as traps; I'd explicitly avoid repeating the praised activity after being praised for doing it.

Anonymous said...

OTOH, if I knew that it was 'objectively' important that a task be done (and not important because it was an assignment, or what have you), then I'd do it with or without praise.